Friday, June 4, 2010

Societies suffer or collapse when they reject traditional marriage

Jordan Lorence, who is a native Minnesotan and lived in the Lake Minnetonka, Mound area and graduated the University of Minnesota Law School, said he was excited to join forces with MFC and bring ADF’s national expertise to aid in our local effort to defeat the lawsuit filed in Hennepin County to strike down our Defense of Marriage laws.

The ADF has participated in similar battles across the country including Proposition 8 in California.

Lorence said “this case is mangling and contorting the state constitution in ways that know one has interpreted it to mean that there is a right of every individual define marriage any way that he or she wants and to force the state, and everyone else in the state to accept that definition.”

That will result in chaos. That is not marriage equality it’s marriage demolition,” and it’s judicial activism that the court should reject.

In fact, the Minnesota Supreme Court had one of the first cases like this, Baker v. Nelson, back in 1971 and the State Supreme Court unanimously rejected it “and I expect the State Supreme Court or one of the lower courts to reject it again.”

“When you put men and women in society they eventually produce children. And society has to figure out what to do with them [the children]. If they allow anyone to do what they want you end up with irresponsible men, exploiting women and neglecting children. You don’t sustain a society from generation to generation with this self-oriented model of sexuality and marriage.”

Consequently, “societies have to come to the conclusions that their needs to be a societal orienting of this eventual production of children into a stable relationship of the father and the mother to raise the children that they produce. It is a lifelong commitment; it is sexually exclusive between the people and monogamous. This is the best environment for raising children."

He also noted that when societies have experimented with this orientation, they have suffered or collapsed.


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mom said...

The American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, and the National Association of Social Workers state:

“There is no scientific basis for distinguishing between same-sex couples and heterosexual couples with respect to the legal rights, obligations, benefits, and burdens conferred by civil marriage.”

Thus, mental health professionals and researchers have long recognized that being homosexual poses no inherent obstacle to leading a happy, healthy, and productive life, and that the vast majority of gay and lesbian people function well in the full array of social institutions and interpersonal relationships.

The research and clinical literature demonstrate that same-sex sexual and romantic attractions, feelings, and behaviors are normal and positive variations of human sexuality.

The longstanding consensus of the behavioral and social sciences and the health and mental health professions is that homosexuality per se is a normal and positive variation of human sexual orientation.

mom said...

The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.

From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Asociation and American Psychiatric Asociation have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.

America’s premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality.

mom said...

For those of you claiming homosexuality is a “lifestyle”, that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don’t choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.
Gay, Straight Men’s Brain Responses Differ,2933,155990,00.html

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. “Nurture” may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

Gurthie said...

Funny you can say that societies have experimented with this and suffered or collapsed, but you can not say how when or why. Parenting through want, guide and love, diverse and plentiful ways have proven the opposite of what you have stated. One way is not the only way. It is for you, not for the world.

for example I will give you a brief real study a new one, up to date even. Besides the facts that one can look through history, and see the many wonderful success stories of cultures and differences in the family structure that has not only not collapsed but succeeded.